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Old June 28th, 2009   #16 (permalink)
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i say the trade in rate for denarius for sol's should be half of what it costs to buy a denarius with sol's to prevent the same thing happening, just with more work, and i think 100 sol's isnt enough 150 atleast, if not more, you said they'd have to work hard, if were poppin out 75+ sol's a day just from the oc, then no, much more, hard means atleast a week for one imo, if you dont wanna donate you do work very hard, if i did the oc on every toon i had and then all of them on another acct (i know many peopple have access to more than one) thats enough for about two denarius a day, thus increasing the supply, and reducing the demand, putting us in a worse spot than we are now
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Old June 28th, 2009   #17 (permalink)
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tbh its a good idea, however I'm not sure how it will effect the community, most players I've seen on private servers tend to be more lazy about gaming or strictly play for the pvp and so-forth so it could do nothing as sad as that sounds, but on the other side of the coin there are some rather dedicated players however rare that will join specifically because of the fact that even without donating they can get anything available on the server and possibly bring friends or clan-mates that would donate and thus help bring in profits, but its pretty much a coin toss, in my opinion though i kina like the idea myself being too broke to donate because id like to see the den stay around for a good while to come, and new potential to bring in players is the best way to do so.

oh and the account bound bit, definitely a plus there's bound to be donators with change on some of their characters they'd just love to pool and get something with on one of em.
Okay about this, players that are lazy and dont wanna work hard to get denarius, they will donate cuz it will be a short cut.

As for shek's idea, i think that you should get like, 30-50% of the sols when you tradein the denarius, because if you get like 100% for a denarius->sol trade, then players can just trade the solarians, thus making the acc bound useless.

...And this is a bit of a long shot, but what about making sols acc bound too, to prevent people using multiple acc's to do the OC's.

And a vendor on GM island to sell solarians, for like, 25k per sol. Or another fixed price.
I suggest testing out the rate wich players gain gold and then find a fixed price for solarians, so that people start using gold again as a currency. To make it more fair, meybe you can also delete everyones notes ? so that there are no "rich" people on the den.

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i belive selling sols for gold is outta the question here you can get them from events , voting , the dgaoc's and a few other ways
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Yeah, Shek's idea is good, but i think implementing Sols as acc bound would be silly fro very beggining.

I say lets implement acc bound denarius's, that can be tradedin for sols in amount of like 50. When player want to trade in sols->denarius need 100 solarians to do it.

If it will work, Staff could implement sols as acc bound for testing, and check how it goes, put i don't think it would be good idea.

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to prevent people using multiple acc's to do the OC's.
Well, Jason said "more events" so why don't delete OC's?

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And a vendor on GM island to sell solarians, for like, 25k per sol. Or another fixed price.
I suggest testing out the rate wich players gain gold and then find a fixed price for solarians, so that people start using gold again as a currency. To make it more fair, meybe you can also delete everyones notes ? so that there are no "rich" people on the den.
Im really up for this idea, and i think 15-25 k gold/sol would be ok and fair, so if you're missing few sols and theres no upcoming event, ya can buy some.
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But still, cost of a sol->denarian should be at least 150.

Cuz players can do OC's a lot. Trust me, i've seen how some corrupt players do it, multiple acc's, and doing anything they can to get more sols.
Some have even resorted to hacking.
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Yeah, ive seen them too.

Well, im not for sols as cheap as possible, cos where fun for getting them would be?

But as i said, if theres gonna be more events (not only pvp i bealive) why don't try closing oc's for some time?
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yes and if i'm not mistake also if you get caught w/ multiple account you can get banned unless you have permission to have more then 1 account so if you want to cheat then bye bye your tough luck

also i have an idea for an event that everyone might like just let me work out the bugs and kinks ... i might even try it soon to see if it works
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Yeah, ive seen them too.

Well, im not for sols as cheap as possible, cos where fun for getting them would be?

But as i said, if theres gonna be more events (not only pvp i bealive) why don't try closing oc's for some time?
We dont want the "getting sols" part to be fun, it has to be hard work to drive people to donate.
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sorry i havent made any donations lately, im saving up for the 300.00
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Ooookay!
so you can make 170 sol's per day per acct, i for one, have access to 4 accounts, 3 of which being friends who are no longer activley playing, in one day i could make 680 sol's(if so dedicated, which non donnors sometimes are) if one denarius is 100 sol's thats 6, nearly 7 denarius a day, in a week i could have one toon fully donnored and then some, without donating a single dollar.

now most people dont have access to 4 whole accts obviously, so 170 a day, enough for a denarius a day, i say 2-3 days should be 1 denarius, if you have 2 accts which many do, thats 340 a day, so for the average person you could be making 1-3 denarius a day on the set of 100 sol per denarius, this is not even counting events either...

this might sound high but 300+ sol's per denarius is what i say, that way you have to rlly dedicate yourself to get those denarius without donating, even tho you can still get one a day if you try very hard, but trying is hard is what its suppose to be, a denarius every 2 days for those who only use a single acct sounds good if you ask me, considering you can get donnor1, and then trade it in for donnor 2 once you get enough and so on, so its not like you have to save for a month before you get anything, 300-350 is my opinion
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i dont really like the idea of DGA's being Account bound, the rest sounds freakin awesome
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sorry i havent made any donations lately, im saving up for the 300.00
Draco who are you on the den?
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Okay Shek, this is my final opinion.

Coins being 200 sols, so that you can get 1 coin for 2 days of work on a single account.

But even if you get one coin, d3 costs 4 coins per piece and the weapons cost even more.

And i suggest a sol vendor that sells sols for 20k a piece on GM island, cuz people got so much gold we dont have what to spend it on.

So basicly only those who use multiple accounts can get more than 1 coin/per 2 days.

I think that's a stable enough system.
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heres my suggestion, make a new form of currency, lets call it a whatchamacallit(WCM for short)

make OC's give WCM's, and turn in WCM's for gear that could be useful in levelling, but is not donor

Solarions are only given out at events, so those who participate alot can gain coins

coins stay as is.

those who want levelling gear, can give a low amount of sol's, for a large amount of WCM's.
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Alright, well we have noticed a huge Drastic Drop in donation's
Now with this we have an Idea of imposing the Fallowing changes


Denarius are to Be account Bound, able to transfer with in a users account, they are still allowed to be traded in for solarian
Also making Marks that are traded in Soul Bound to the account with the acception of the Charm of Fortunes but limiting to only one Charm of Fortunes in Inventory at a Time.

now in doing this we understand that Non-Donators will be at a Disadvantage of sorts we have concluded that a Trade-in for Denarius will have to be added, so we are proposing a 100 to 150 Solarian for every 1 DGA Coin still giving those who cannot donate the chance to get donators with Hard work.

This will also mean an Increase in GM events and World events Such as new Courses and Mazes, and other ways of getting Solarian.

if you have anything to add please do so below, and Please be constructive, Any Random Post will be deleted.
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excellent idea jason, im in full support of it

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