Paule

And uhm.well tfm is a gm...

Dewire

Good going Paule, im glad you know such great info ^.^

cmoabob

The guy's disruptive in-game and forum antics are well-remembered by many of us.

Sure, we all deserve a 2nd chance, but he decided to burn bridges and commit social suicide when chances *were* still available to him.
He decided to got out shooting when a single, minuscule gesture of seeming atonement - just for appearances' sake - would have sufficed to defuse the whole thing.

Is there any new evidence suggesting that he was wrongfully condemned to a ban? No.

Is there any new evidence that even remotely suggests he deserves a new trial or case review? No.

Did he take advantage of any of the chances offered way back then to make amends? No.

Three strikes and, in my book, he's out.

And that's not even considering that I think he wants back in here because there's a definite possibility he's managed to get banned everywhere else he's played since screwing up here (in my experience, his kind of behavior is symptomatic of a general disregard for any and all social conventions, rules and consensus anywhere)...

Regards,


Cmoa

Zangetsu

agreed with Cmoa...

shadow king

if redemption had A SECOND CHANCE why linkxd shouldnt have??? hes account is banned for 3 months cmon ppls lets give him a chance especially now the rulls permit killing near the arena stairs if atack starts in arena...

Fallenone

I fully agree with Cmoa.
Why would he come back after three whole months?
Redemption stayed active *cough*
He simply does not deserve this second chance.

Thorn

yeah if redemptetion got hes 2nd chance let linkxd have a 2nd chance to its just fair !!!

Mucak

Lets just unban him, and count on Thorn to give Linkxd an asskicking if he brakes the rules again.

Dewire

redemption didnt get a second chance he is still banned ingame...

cmoabob

The question is not what *today's* rules allow, the question is how openly, blatantly and knowingly he decided to violate the explicit and consensual rules and codes of conduct to which he and all Den members subscribed when they signed up: no friggin' ganking *anywhere* but on the Arena floor.

Our groveling buddy - "I have seen the light, I am saved, please let me back in after I've knowingly fucked up and told you all to take a flying fuck with your anal rules" - wants back in. That just doesn't cut it, sorry.

The rules have changed? I don't give a shit. If I applied past income tax laws to this year's income, the friggin' government would owe me a gazillion dollars, but we all know that can't be done. We all know that's technicolor dreaming.

Simply put: He knew.
He fucked up.
And he persisted.
And he fucked up some more.
Then he told everyone to fuck off and die.
And then he told everyone to exactly where to shove the anally retentive rules to which even he'd agreed.
Surprise: "OMG-I-can't-fucking-believe-it-I'm-banned-and-I-don't-fucking-understand-why-this-shit-is-happening-to-me!!!".

Boo-fucking-hoo. Anyone else (but him) still surprised by the outcome? Thought so.

So, let's say that maybe he *has* learned.

I don't give a shit. Too darn bad he was such an exceptionally slow learner. 'Cause there were chances to make amends. And many of them, I was there and I remember.

Allow me a real life analogy to illustrate my point. Premise: let us assume that, for reasons unknown, you fuck up and flunk out of college.

1- you knew and agreed to the fact that you had to respect a certain grade-point average/code of conduct, but chose not to or could not do so
2- you flunk out big time and get kicked out and then proceed to tell the registrar and everyone else to go fuck themselves
3- *but* - and there is a but - you *do* deserve a second chance
4- sadly, there's no fucking way that that very same college will take you back, but you are free to apply to any other college of your choice
5- apply the preceding points to a job, a family, a romantic relationship, a friendship or even (get this) A RELATIONSHIP WITH A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY (can you fucking imagine that!) and stop wasting our time though we *do* wish you the best of luck on the rest of your WoW life, wherever that may be.

Conclusion and moral of our short fable: when you decide to knowingly fuck up (and I think that point has been aptly and many a time proved), the fact remains that when you *do* fuck up you have to own up, pay up and move on.

So, in the end, what's changed? The date and that's about it.

He fucked up big time and I'd say that by asking to be unbanned that yet fucking again and once more, he *totally* disregards the rules that he now promises to respect! Let me me remind those of you who missed it that when faced with a final and irrevocable ban, A LIFE BAN FOR CHRIST'S SAKES, he knowingly chose to tell The Den community to all go fuck ourselves. He knew the rules and what it cost to go against them. Now, he wants to go against them again!?!

I can't fucking believe it.

He said "Bring it on, motherfuckers". We said "Stop it, we'll sack your ass". He said "I don't give a shit, assholes". We didn't either. Now he wants back in. Dang, we *still* don't give a shit!

Well, buddy, there are some lessons to be learned in life and, free of charge and in totally random order, here are a few:

- You have absolutely no fucking rights after pissing away a rare privilege - zero, nada, zilch.
- There is a price to pay for everything you do wrong in life. And I do mean everything. And it may be a bitchin' long time before you pay up.
- Pissing against the wind will make even your very best friends strp away from you. Ordinary folks will just turn their backs and not give a fuck about you and your sorry-ass reasons, whatever they may be.
- You may want to be very careful when you wish ill fate upon someone - *exactly* like what you wished the whole community you so ardently want to rejoin today - it will probably just come back to bite you in the ass. Big time.
- After showing gracious hosts a total lack of respect, regard and gratitude, crawling back on all fours will most likely not cut it - some may even, and rightly so, find it enjoyable to see you beg.
- Goodwill and sympathy are about 100 times harder to earn than to maintain - and I do mean *earn* because 'deserve' does not apply to you anymore. After pissing everyone off, earning back is a *thousand* times harder.
- Being a man sometimes means swallowing real hard and suffering the consequences of our actions.

Last but not least, some people just don't give a shit about how fucking sorry he is. We don't even care if he really is or not!

He had the great privilege to play here with us and decided to piss it away.

He has to live with it. Today, tomorrow and the day after that. He could have thought about it yesterday, the day before and the day before that.

I know most of us don't miss him one bit. I'd even say we're happier since he decided to get banned.

Oh, and just for the record, I don't give a shit about him or how much or why he wants back in. I'm too busy being happy for him that he got exactly what he wanted 3 months ago: to get banned by his repeated actions and words.

The Den is a better place without him and his drama.

Now it's time for him to move on.

Regards,


cmoa

Dewire

Well with what you said i have come to this conclusion:

[INSERT WALL OF TEXT HERE]

And that is my opinion ^.^

cmoabob

Yeah, that is a doozy alright.

Dang, I do get carried away sometimes, hehe.

Regards,


cmoa

Bionuclear

Ok Im not 1 who normally comments on this sort of thing, but here it goes... 1 thing, most of the staff is pretty nice when it comes to banning players. for the most part (assuming you are not hacking or multi-boxing) if we give you a ban, we normally review the case and depending on the situation we may or may not give you another chance to come back. HOWEVER, when a perma-ban has been issued, we will NOT review the case. Its not the fact that you ganked someone in the stv arena. The fact that you had multiple accounts under your IP address is the main source of why you will not be allowed to return. This is HIGHLY against the den /Kp's rulez. Then, not only that, but you went on the forums and spammed messages of hate towards 2 people who didn't even deserve it.. As far as im concerned, you are not welcome here.

Thorn

come on that mistake with the 4 ip`s its not linkxd fault its mine so ban me and unban him he dont deserve to pay for my mistakes !!!

Nightelada

Nah i think he should stay banned for the gank and we will forgive him for the 4 ip's :P