Edit By Scarred :- I would like it if other people can post constructive criticism or suggestions to this thread please.

I was just wondering when Skinning (Skinning a monster produces no leather) and Disenchanting (Disenchanting produces no raw materials) will be up a working properly? I am a avid skill person and those 2 are my favorites. So any guesstimate about when would be greatly apprciated. I have also noticed that ALOT of the higher end monsters drop only certain things but dont drop gold or high end equipement? Was this purposly done or are the loot table for them not working? Nothing like feeling like going on a killing spree and having very little to nothing to show for it. Just thought I should let you know if its a glitch, hopefully its a glitch and will get fixed (PLEASE) Now.... Onto my thoughts...

Mind you these are mainly sugguestions and ideas.


1. Lvl cap of 255, this from what I have seen in the server this is WAY to high. Being able to learn all 3 talent tree's is way to much. If you were to drop it to 100-125 area it would make it so you could fully learn 1 talent tree and half of another one, giving a wider varity of characters on the server and cuasing alot more thought to go into character talent distribution. Also it would make PVP ALOT more interesting, instead of everyone being MAXXED AND RELAXED!! On a side note it would also bring raiding back to what its suppose to be, a group of people doing high end instances. Instead of people Soloing all of them.

2. This also goes with the first one, I like being able to level up to max level in less then 2 hours but it does take away from the game. Mind you I am not saying to remove the XP increase... just lower it. Say plus 50-75% for killing and plus 100-150% for exploring, mind you this is if you dropped the level max from 255 down to 100ish.

3. Ok this one I think will get the biggest frown but.... About skills (Herb, Alch, Blacksmithing etc etc) having every one of those available to every character totally kills the market. If someone can make EVERYTHING then they have no need to go to the AH or other players for help getting a item they want. If you were to drop it to say.... 3-4 skills per player, it would bring alot back into the game. People would actually see a point in Mining, Skinning, Jewelcraft and the like again.

4. GOLD!!! Ok, I seen someone saying they had over 750k gold. I was flabbergasted by that, having that much gold... WOW!!! My first char is now sitting with just shy 100k. As I have said before this isnt really a bad thing.... But it is a lil insane, solo killing a high end instance boss drops about 20-30k gold ALSO a boat load of purple equipment which in itself sells for 5-15 gold each. You might want to drop the gold rate down slightly, say about 25-40% lower then what its presently sitting at.


Ok so I dont know how this will be received but.... You never know untill you throw it out right? Please dont just bash the hell out of it and say "OHHH THESE ALL SUCK" explain what you think is wrong with them and why. Look forward to reading the responces this gets from the community. Ohhh and I guess I should say HI!!! I'M BACK!!!

read, will respond in a bit with proper ideas.

I agree with msot points, but I'm already maxed. If you aren't maxed, or jsut starting on The Den, then this would suck.cause it's fun ahvign all these things you complain need changing, but at the same time, it does get boring after a while.

Just do like me and copy the wow folder, and patch up and play on a dif pvt server when you get bored on the den. Lol :$

Ok to start off. KingPin done quite a big of work with Disenchanting and Skinning, but it did not work. I think recently, there was a patch announced but not released yet as it was huge ( this is for disenchanting ). Im pretty sure KingPin can elaborate more on that.

Also reguarding loot not dropping from high end mobs. Is this outland drops or what? Need more clarification, although im sure its not intended.

1. KingPin has been dabbling with this idea for a while and alot of people including myself have put forward this suggestion. Lowering the level cap and lower the talent amount would in turn add more specialization and requiring you to think how you want your character to turn out. Do you want it to be good in pvp? or what about good in PvE? Etc. Theres different talent specs for different things. I can't answer you on what well do or if we'll do it, thats up to KingPin and i imagine he would do a vote if it ever came around to it.

2. If we ever did drop the level cap, then we would most certaintly lower the XP rates. This im pretty sure everyone would agree on. Although if we did lower the level cap, we wouldn't have the implemented 'glitch' that we have currently for 90 > 255. I agree with you that it should take longer than 2 hours to level a character to 255. I think perhaps 8 hours ( total ) would be ideal, this is my own opinion.. not that of others.

3. I wouldn't frown at this idea actually, it adds a market into the game which i would deffinetly welcome. Although i wouldn't bring this idea around until we fixed a few proffesions that are not working, as it would leave some proffesions dead. But well see.

4. I also agree with you that gold drop rate is too high. This would be ok if we were doing 20man raids on bosses, but as were soloing we can get 30-40k gold from 1 boss kill to ourself. I also need to fix low level mobs, so that they can drop loot for the lower level players and especially new players to the server, as it can be a bit of a pain running around with no mount. I think gold will be reduced, to what extent.. im not sure.

And Finally. "Throwing it out". You didn't do that.. you gave us constructive and educated suggestions, I much prefer reading something like this that 5 lines of "OMg1z My pr0fssion not wokr.." .. "mount can't get!?!?" "boss hit1?!" "gold please "... etc etc.

Thanks for your post and im sure this will be reviewed and discussed.