hmm i agree and disagree with this at the same time. I agree that gms should not be allowed to be the LEADER of a guild because that kinda makes some people wanna join a guild that has a staff member as leader cus it gives that player the thought that maybe it will benefit them even know it probably wont. but i think that staff should be able to have their non gm toons in a player guild (not as leaders) because the gms have a life of their own and friends of their own. I disagree that gms should have to completely stay out of contact with all of their friends because even know they have these powers as gm i havent seen anyone abuse their powers yet. Also isn't one of the main points of mmorpg to meet people, make friends, have fun, etc? Again gms have lives of their own. P.S. I didn't join Nihilum because the leader has a gm toon. I joined it because of all of the fun that i had the first time Nihilum was around. the leader at that time didn't have a gm toon. I had alot of good times with friends back then. I am not trying to start a fight or anything I am just stating my opinion.